Legislature(2011 - 2012)BUTROVICH 205

04/12/2011 03:00 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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-- Location Change --
-- Meeting Rescheduled from 4/11/11 --
+ HJR 17 WATER & WASTE WATER REGULATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 17(CRA) Out of Committee
+ HB 197 HOME ENERGY RATING SYSTEM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 197(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HJR 27 RELOCATE COASTAL VILLAGES REGION FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 27 Out of Committee
                HB 197-HOME ENERGY RATING SYSTEM                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:05:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  OLSON  announced  the  consideration   of  HB  197.  [CSHB
197(FIN) was before the committee.]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:05:26 PM                                                                                                                    
JEREMIAH CAMPBELL, staff to  Representative Lance Pruitt, sponsor                                                               
of  HB 197,  stated that  HB  197 recognizes  the Alaska  Housing                                                               
Finance Corporation (AHFC) as the  state's authorizing agency for                                                               
the Home Energy  Rating System (HERS). This  legislation seeks to                                                               
protect the investment  that AHFC has already  made in developing                                                               
its  own Alaska-specific  rating system  software called  AkWarm.                                                               
This  investment is  jeopardized  because non-governmental,  for-                                                               
profit, third-parties  are currently attempting to  be identified                                                               
in federal legislation  as the state's HERS  verifying agency. If                                                               
successful, these outside entities  would control state policy on                                                               
the issue.  The AkWarm software  is directly tied to  the state's                                                               
home  energy rebate  and weatherization  programs, interest  rate                                                               
reductions, and  Alaska Building Energy Efficiency  Standards. HB
197  will enable  AHFC  to  ensure that  any  home energy  rating                                                               
system  utilized  in  Alaska will  be  appropriate  for  Alaska's                                                               
climate.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH asked if he  could name a specific non-government                                                               
third-party.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CAMPBELL replied  the  Residential  Energy Services  Network                                                               
(RESNET) is the  entity that's currently active in  the Lower 48.                                                               
He deferred further questions to Mr. Green from AHFC.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:07:42 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB GREEN,  Rural Housing and  Research Programs,  Alaska Housing                                                               
Finance Corporation, Department of  Revenue (DOR), explained that                                                               
RESNET  started as  the national  organization  for state  energy                                                               
rating  officials that  segued first  into a  501(c)(3) and  then                                                               
into a for-profit corporation called  RESNET. Its role is to help                                                               
approve  home  energy  rating  systems  used  in  the  Lower  48,                                                               
particularly  for  states that  do  not  want  to get  into  that                                                               
business. By  comparison, Alaska,  through AHFC, already  plays a                                                               
significant   role  in   the  HERS.   The  AkWarm   software  was                                                               
specifically  developed  for Alaska  and  about  100 home  energy                                                               
raters have been trained. The AHFC  wants to ensure that it has a                                                               
direct  relationship  with  the  federal government  and  that  a                                                               
third-party  doesn't insert  itself  and dictate  policy in  this                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREEN explained  that the  AkWarm software  was specifically                                                               
developed to acknowledge Alaska's  different weather patterns and                                                               
unique conditions. He  opined that it's unlikely  that any rating                                                               
system  software that's  created in  the  Lower 48  would do  the                                                               
same. HB  197 assures that any  rating system that's used  in the                                                               
state  will   be  closely  examined   to  make  sure   that  it's                                                               
appropriate  with   regard  to   energy  conservation   and  home                                                               
construction in the state of Alaska.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:10:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked why a  government entity should run the program                                                               
when a private entity such as  RESNET can do it more efficiently.                                                               
He noted he didn't see a fiscal note.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL responded that the bill has a zero fiscal note.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  questioned giving  the state  what is  essentially a                                                               
monopoly   when  private   enterprise  tends   to  operate   more                                                               
efficiently.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN explained that the  AHFC is statutorily prohibited from                                                               
issuing  loans on  homes that  do not  meet the  minimum building                                                               
energy  efficiency standard.  Currently this  is four  star plus.                                                               
The AkWarm  software is used to  measure homes to make  sure that                                                               
they  meet that  mark and  thus  qualify for  AHFC financing.  He                                                               
noted  that   several  years   ago  AHFC   looked  at   the  same                                                               
public/private question and concluded  that it was most important                                                               
to ensure that  home ratings are accurate. AHFC  decided that the                                                               
best way  to do  this was  to create  and maintain  public domain                                                               
energy  rating software  and to  invest in  training home  energy                                                               
raters. To date,  about 100 home energy raters  have been trained                                                               
and they're all proficient and  certified. The private sector has                                                               
used  this  mechanism as  a  marketing  tool  to sell  an  energy                                                               
efficient  product,  which  makes   a  nice  working  partnership                                                               
between the AHFC and the building industry.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:14:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked  if it would adversely affect  home builders to                                                               
have  an  effective  date  that   falls  in  the  middle  of  the                                                               
construction season.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN said  he didn't believe so because  the AkWarm software                                                               
tool and  AHFC trained  energy raters  are already  in widespread                                                               
use. There is the possibility  today, however, for a builder from                                                               
the Lower 48  to build a house in Alaska  that's rated three star                                                               
plus and  have it financed by  Freddy Mac or Fanny  Mae. But AHFC                                                               
couldn't finance  that home in the  event of a resale  because it                                                               
doesn't  meet  the minimum  four  star  plus rating.  The  Alaska                                                               
building  industry  has  keyed  in on  this  and  recognizes  the                                                               
benefit  of  building to  AHFC  energy  specifications such  that                                                               
financing is available from any funding source.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked if that  puts other lending institutions  at a                                                               
disadvantage.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREEN  replied Freddie  Mac  and  Fannie Mae  recognize  the                                                               
standard that  AHFC is  encouraging builders  to achieve  and the                                                               
building industry  is telling the financing  institutions that it                                                               
is building energy  efficient products that will  qualify for all                                                               
available financing. It's a good marketing tool.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:16:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked who opposes the bill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL  replied there's  been no  opposition and  both AARP                                                               
and  the Homebuilders  Association  have stated  support for  the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON noted that no one had signed up to testify.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:17:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WAGONER  moved to report  CSHB 197(FIN), version  B, from                                                               
the  committee  with   individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  announced  that without  objection,  CSHB  197(FIN)                                                               
moved  from the  Senate Community  and Regional  Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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